So an Atheist and a Catholic enter a podcast studio...
I had a great time and a great conversation with Eric Robert Morse, author of The Juggernaut: Why the System Crushes the Only People Who Can Save it.
This poem by William Blake was great fodder for a much larger discussion: What is the ideal society and how does one build it. What I found most interesting in this discussion was that eventually we got to the point where we were discussing out methods of thinking. This is the most critical aspects of coming to conclusion. If one person sees the world as concretes disconnected from abstractions or vice versa or somewhere in between that makes it hard to converse. Yet we figured it out and by the end came to some interesting conclusions on how an atheist and a Catholic can come to some serious agreements.
The New Jerusalem
BY WILLIAM BLAKE
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon Englands mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!
And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?
Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
Bring me my arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of fire!
I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Englands green & pleasant Land.