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Jordan Peterson's 9th Rule & The Imitation of Socrates

In this episode we will be exploring Peterson's rule "Assume that the person you are Listening to might know something you don't." it's a lesson we should all take to heart, especially those (like myself) who are so inclined toward totalitarian certainty.

While certainty is achievable, it is anything but easy. More appropriate should be our desire to understand other ideas, and how to entertain those ideas, without necessarily accepting them. In that no greater tool is at your possession than ART.

We'll be exploring the poem "The Laws of God, the Laws of Men."

Benjamin Franklin as a young man gave himself a daily assignment in his attempt toward moral perfection: To imitate Jesus and Socrates. We know what it means to imitate Jesus. But what does imitating socrates entail? This episode will explore that idea.


by A.E. Housman

The laws of God, the laws of man,

He may keep that will and can;

Not I: let God and man decree

Laws for themselves and not for me;

And if my ways are not as theirs

Let them mind their own affairs.

Their deeds I judge and much condemn,

Yet when did I make laws for them?

Please yourselves, say I, and they

Need only look the other way.

But no, they will not; they must still

Wrest their neighbour to their will,

And make me dance as they desire

With jail and gallows and hell-fire.

And how am I to face the odds

Of man’s bedevilment and God’s?

I, a stranger and afraid

In a world I never made.

They will be master, right or wrong;

Though both are foolish, both are strong.

And since, my soul, we cannot fly

To Saturn nor to Mercury,

Keep we must, if keep we can,

These foreign laws of God and man.


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